Interview with Cal Freeman

Author of “*(for Simon Perchik)” (Volume XXX, 2026)

When did you realize you wanted to write? 

I was in 7th grade. At the time I was listening to the band Nirvana and wanted to be a songwriter. I got the idea that poetry would help me become a better lyricist, so I started reading poets and writing my own poems.

Is what you write now the same as what you wanted to write when you started?

Yes, in that I write poetry still, but I think back then I imagined myself being more of a musician and songwriter than a poet. I still write songs for my band, The Codgers, but I really don’t feel like myself unless I’m engaging with poetry most days.

What is a favorite piece that you wrote? What is a favorite piece that you’ve read?

“A Woman on a Green Front Porch,” which was recently published by the brilliant poet and editor, Natalie Solmer, in The Indianapolis Review, is one that is really personally important to me. It recounts memories of my mother reciting poems on the porch of my childhood home in Detroit and has some intertextual qualities where I list poems and fictions that have impacted my writing.

I’ve been obsessed with King Henry IV parts 1 and 2 lately, especially the character Falstaff. There’s something so endearing and sad about an insecure drunk who masks insecurity with brilliant phrasings. There’s also something about a big talker in a barroom padding their resume, rubbing elbows with royalty. I’m sure there are other settings where such lovely, democratizing bombast exists, but I’ve spent so many hours playing music in west Detroit Irish pubs and have known many Falstaffs through the decades that I really enjoy those two plays more than I should.

How have other authors influenced your own writing and style?

I’ve been really influenced by the associative parataxis I find in poets like Rae Armentrout and Fanny Howe, both poets who trust their readers to make connections. Larry Levis has influenced me in terms of how he lets a poem be expansively narrative and also how he has such a deep allegiance to place. Robert Lowell’s poetry has taught me much about autobiographical writing, both how to do it in poems and how not to do it in a cautionary way.

How does using technology—Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, or even just your phone—influence how you write?

I still write with pen on paper when I put my poems through their initial drafts. There’s a necessary slowing down that accompanies this approach, but I have used the notes function on my phone to capture thoughts and images that end up in poems later. I have Instagram and Facebook, and the best things about those platforms is seeing what friends are writing as their work comes out in journals. 

What advice would you give an aspiring writer who wants to put their work “out there”? 

Don’t overthink it too much and cast a wide net; send out a lot in other words and don’t read too much into rejection. With that being said, only send to journals that are publishing work you actually like. Pour yourself into the craft though and spend time with drafts of poems; if there’s care and time put into the craft, those poems will find homes.

What have your experiences been like interacting with the publishing world? How about with student editors working on literary journals? 

I’ve been lucky to have had mostly positive experiences, especially with my current press, Cornerstone, which features several gifted student editors. As someone who cut his teeth working as a student-editor of Mid-American Review I think it’s great when presses and journals get student editors involved.

Where do you typically seek inspiration and guidance for your work?

I am lucky to have some wonderful responsive readers. I often send work to the poet Michael Lauchlan, who is a wonderfully thoughtful and generous reader. My wife, the fiction writer and essayist Sarah Pazur, is also often an early reader. I was also really lucky to have the poet Kevin Cantwell in my family, and his insights and advice have been crucial for me. Richard Tillinghast has been a wonderful mentor in recent years, and I’ve been really inspired by the cool prompts he’s given me. Taking walks in the Detroit River/Lake Erie watershed with the writer Peter Markus and his dog Moonshine has been a huge source of inspiration the last few years. Early on, my uncle Patrick O’Neill really encouraged me and his poems still inspire me too.

How do you feel about having your writing appear and read alongside other works in a literary collection? 

It’s great! Of course, when I see some of the talented accomplished folks in some of the anthologies and journals I’ve been in, I can get a bit of impostor syndrome, but I think that’s a healthy thing at the end of the day.

If you could have a drink or a chat with any living author, who would it be? Why? 

I’m getting beers with the poet and fiction writer Steve Hughes next week, so that’ll be a good time. I’m really curious to meet David Dodd Lee in person. I loved his book The Bay and feel like we’d have a good visit if we were ever in the same place to grab a shot and beer. I love this line in his poem, “Fur”: We were surveilled in / a dive bar last night in the middle of winter // by a carpenter ant who then fell into my / mug of beer… 

Do you have any professional advice for prospective authors seeking to be published? What did the process of getting your first published work look like?

I’d say worry first about writing the kind of work you want to read; what kind of writing doesn’t yet exist that you’d like to read. Aim for that. I think if we bring ourselves to write according to this principle, it’ll find a home. I’d also say that once you have work you’ve invested in, send it out to a bunch of places, keeping careful records of course should you have to withdraw a piece. Finally, don’t compare and despair.

My first real publication was a long poem about Henry Ford and the labor movement in Dearborn/Detroit that came out with The Minnesota Review. It was a poem I’d spent two years writing and revising while in grad school at Bowling Green. I’d sent it around to a few places and gotten form rejections, so it was a real thrill when it got accepted and they did a wonderful job with it.

How do you manage writer’s block?

I don’t really believe in it. I think it’s merely the inability to allow ourselves to write nonsensically or badly. So I guess I get around it by letting myself write badly.

What do you think makes a story or poem “good”?

It’s so nebulous, but I think most poems I like avoid anatomically erroneous figurations involving the heart.

Is there a book, story, or poem that changed your perspective on the world? If so, did it influence your writing and/or the way you write?

Jerry Dennis’ book The Living Great Lakes changed the way I viewed and understood the region where I was born and raised, namely Southeastern Michigan. That book provided me a lexicon that could name and describe the places I move through in my daily life and raised the stakes for me in terms of what place-based writing can achieve.

Interview with Ace Boggess

Author of “Grave Thoughts” (Volume XXX, 2026)

When did you realize you wanted to write? 

I always dabbled with writing. I remember as a kid starting novels on an old typewriter. I’d write a few pages or a chapter and then forget about them forever, whatever they were. I started writing poetry and my first novel manuscript in my last year of high school and finished the latter during my first year of college (it was crap). That first year of college, though, my poems began to get accepted to small horror and sci-fi magazines, and that drove me on. A year or two later, I turned to more literary poetry and prose, and that’s when I really felt it, believed it, wanted to continue that for the rest of my life.

Is what you write now the same as what you wanted to write when you started?

Oh no. No no no. I started out writing genre fiction and awful rhyming poetry. I moved through experimental and Beat-inspired work, spent some time writing comedic stuff, and finally found my place writing literary work that not only moved me but I was much better at creating. Even that style has evolved many times over the years.

What is a favorite piece that you wrote? What is a favorite piece that you’ve read?

As for mine, the one that always comes to mind is “Watching the Wizard of Oz” in prison, which you can find on the Rattle website. Favorite poems include Stephen Dobyns’s “Uprising,” Adam Zagajewski’s “Try to Praise the Mutilated World,” Julie Sheehan’s “Hate Poem,” and the entire books The Evening Sun by David Lehman and Felon by Reginald Dwayne Betts.

How have other authors influenced your own writing and style?

I can look back and trace a litany of authors and books that, the first time I read them, changed my entire perspective. There are far too many to list, but here are a few. The first time I read Naked Lunch by William Burroughs, it opened my mind to possibilities. Neruda’s Twenty Love Poems and a Song of Despair taught me beauty. Lehman’s book The Evening Sun and Zagajewski’s Without End came into my life at exactly the right time to shift my focus in ways that still linger in my writing. That’s just a few. I read too much, really: novels, poetry collections, journals, whatever I can get my hands on (and afford, which is often the problem, being an unemployed ex-con). I read all the Best American things: poetry, short stories, debut fiction, short fictions. It all moves me.

How does using technology—Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, or even just your phone—influence how you write?

I use Facebook and Twitter, mostly to keep up with what others are doing and post about my publications. It’s grown my audience, but I don’t really use it for my writing unless some random thing inspires me to write some other random thing. Google Search is the main technology I use. I often get paranoid that I’m misspelling something or not using a word correctly despite having used it that way for more than thirty years, so I’m always searching to make sure I’ve got things right (and sometimes don’t). I don’t use AI for anything to do with writing. I have contempt for it—not AI itself, but for having it in any way connected to the arts. Nor do I write on my phone, although I do use it to take notes on things I see occasionally. That’s handy.

What advice would you give an aspiring writer who wants to put their work “out there”? 

I say some version of this all the time to young writers discouraged by rejections. The whole process is a crapshoot. It’s not just about getting the poems or stories right; it’s about getting the right pieces to the right editors on the right days when nobody yelled at them over the phone or ran over their dog in the driveway. Just keep submitting and the acceptances will come. Also, keep tightening the screws on your work.

What have your experiences been like interacting with the publishing world? How about with student editors working on literary journals? 

I’ve been doing this a long time. I’ve had good experiences and bad ones with every type of editors and literary journals. Some journals I’ve expected to be small and obscure turned out to be glorious incarnations, while some I thought would be among the best mishandled my work or misspelled my name (which happens far more than I’d expect). I’ve dealt with publishers that really cared for my books and did everything they could for them, and others that put the book out and then promptly folded or quickly moved on to the next book without any support. I’ve had five-minute acceptances and rejections that took two years.

Where do you typically seek inspiration and guidance for your work?

Inspiration comes from everywhere. I write about everything I see or experience, dreams, all the weird or twisted thoughts that go through my head. The best way to find inspiration is just to live and have interesting moments, good and bad. As for guidance, I’m self-taught, especially with poetry. My guides are other poems. I read way too much. I consume books and journals as much as my limited finances allow. With prose, I had one class as an undergrad, but I had already written three novels before I took the class (all in different styles, two of them terrible). The main thing I learned in that class was not about writing but just to read better. That’s the main thing anyone should learn. Read as much as you can of what you want to write. Read other things, too, just to get a feel for possibilities, but mainly read what does the sort of thing you want to do. You gain a lot from that simple act.

How do you feel about having your writing appear and read alongside other works in a literary collection? 

I love it. It gives me things to read (for free) from people I might connect with, especially now in the age of social media. I crave moments of discovery when I read someone new and think, goddamn that’s good!

If you could have a drink or a chat with any living author, who would it be? Why? 

Christopher Moore. He’s the one author from my early days of writing horror and comedy that I still read everything he writes. He tells good stories and, especially when you read them aloud with a companion, those stories often result in many spit takes. Picture chunks of lamb korma flying uncontrollably across the room. I did chat with him a few times back in the days of America Online. What a different world that was. He was always friendly. I talked with Tom Clancy on there too, but always found him to be a bit of a dick.

Do you have any professional advice for prospective authors seeking to be published? What did the process of getting your first published work look like?

Oh, hell. That’s a long story. I wrote mostly novels for the fist fifteen years of my life. About a book a year. I couldn’t sell them. I had a reputable agent, and she couldn’t sell them. It was a very self-destructive time in my life, and the feelings of failure were a big part of my drug problems, crime, and ultimately imprisonment, which—again, Fate—led to the writing of my best book, a collection of poetry called The Prisoners that was accepted on the day I made it out. My first published book was a couple years before prison, though. It was a small poetry book called The Beautiful Girl Whose Wish Was Not Fulfilled. The publisher was the editor of a magazine who published many of my poems over the preceding years and had me up to do several readings in central and eastern Pennsylvania. She decided one day that she wanted to publish a book of my poems, so I put a manuscript together for her, and she released it. It was a gorgeous little book, and it was one of the most exciting times of my life. Unfortunately, I was already too far gone by that point, between the self-doubt and the drug habit. I didn’t appreciate it nearly as much as I should’ve.

How do you manage writer’s block?

I don’t have it. Never have. I always write something when it’s time to write. If nothing exciting is happening to write about, then I’ll write about a shoe or a deer or a layer of dust on my baseboards. It doesn’t matter. I’ll write something. Maybe it’ll be great, maybe awful. But that’s a decision for later. I can always edit it or discard it. My history is littered with the corpses of discarded poems. I’d put their bodies on pikes like a paper Vlad the Impaler, but there’d be so many that it might ward off other poems.

What do you think makes a story or poem “good”?

The main thing for me is a sense of connection to the strange. I want to feel what the author is feeling and live their lives in a way that what they’ve been through, happy or sad, common or unique, seems like something I can understand and experience as I was there, a part of it, and in that sense, a part of the poet as well. It’s what I aim for in my writing, too. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

Is there a book, story, or poem that changed your perspective on the world? If so, did it influence your writing and/or the way you write?

I already answered this in one of the questions above, so I’m going to go in a different direction and tell you a story about why I love Clackamas Literary Review and always submit here: Around the turn of the millennium, I went with a friend to an alternative club in Huntington, West Virginia, which had replaced a previous alternative club on the same spot. We sat there listening to a band and had a great chat about how the new bar brought up so much nostalgia for the old one, and how things change, and what that meant for our lives. I went home and wrote a poem called “Ghost Club” that I submitted to CLR (my first time submitting here). It was accepted, and about eight months later, published in a gorgeous edition. Meanwhile, my friend was headed off to Alaska for some job or other. He flew cross-country to, I believe, Washington, but I’ve forgotten the details. Anyway, he sent me an e-mail from there. He had walked into a bookstore while there, spotted CLR on the shelf, thought it looked good so picked it up, saw my name, read the poem, and wrote to tell me how crazy it was, and how cool, to go all the way across the country and pick up a random journal only to read a poem with me in it. That’s big-F Fate. I have loved CLR ever since.

Interview with Lindsay Wilson

Author of “Letter to You Beginning at a Dead Lake,” Volume XXX, 2026

When did you realize you wanted to write? 

Pretty early in high school I started to write in a notebook. It started by trying to write a song, and I found it so difficult. I remember sitting there for hours and never finishing it. The difficulty of trying to translate my thoughts into words fascinated me and that never went away. My childhood was complicated, so trying to make sense of that through writing (whether that writing was fiction or nonfiction) helped me sort through events and moments I needed to reflect on. It’s that difficult translation between thought and words on the page that’s very interesting, and I don’t think I would find so much joy through writing if it was easy.  

Is what you write now the same as what you wanted to write when you started?

In a sense, yes, but it’s so much more nuanced than how I started. I didn’t start by wanting to write about any specific thing other than my life and questions that simply came up by living. That has never changed. My understanding of poetry, the books I’ve read, and the writers I’ve studied with, or have become friends with, all have deepened my process, which is completely different than how I started.

How does using technology—Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, or even just your phone—influence how you write?

Technology mostly has a negative impact on my writing. The positives are obvious. It’s nice to be friends with a lot of great writers through social media. You can talk to them. You can see what their latest works are and read them before they come out in book form. All of that is very interesting, and given so many of these people do not live where I live, feeling “connected” to them in some way is great. It’s also nice to be writing and realize you want to research something, so having the ability to look things up is helpful. That said, technology is powerful distraction, and writing is about attention. Studies suggest that it takes 10-20 minutes to get into a creative mindset, and when we consistently stop working to check our phones, we pull ourselves out of that creative mindset. It then takes another 10-20 minutes to get back into that head space, but most people check their phones every 5-10 minutes, so do that math. We also have this false believe in our abilities to multitask, which isn’t real. What we call multitasking is really splitting our attention. You stop doing one task to do another. You can’t write a good poem and read your phone in the exact same moment. You do one thing, and then stop and do another. It’s never at the same time. Also, reading on a screen is dreadful. I retain half as much as I would from reading a hardcopy. On top of all this, we live in an attention economy, and many of the tech bros who profit from that are not good human beings, so disconnecting from that world is an intentional choice that we all need to make more often. Unfortunately, promoting yourself is difficult to do, and phone addiction is a real thing, but social media gives you the ability to share work that’s been published and promote your books. It’s a difficult thing to manage. The positives are there, but the negatives are extreme.  

What advice would you give an aspiring writer who wants to put their work “out there

There is your writing process and what you create, and then there is publishing and self-promotion. They are not the same thing. In fact, trying to get out there and promoting yourself, takes time away from creating. It’s important to see these things as distinctly different. The most important thing you can do as an aspiring writer is develop a love for the process of writing. There is nothing more important, in my mind, than that. If you develop a love for the process, you will love to write. All creatives need to put in a lot of time and attention to work on their craft. It takes years, but after that time, the growth will be obvious, and then getting it “out there” is much easier. But don’t be in a rush. You’re only competing against yourself. After that time where you do a lot of work, you need to work on learning the literary magazine market and presses. This too will take time. Ask friends what journals they like. Go to book fairs with small presses and journals. Go to journal reading launch parties. Buy sample copies. Follow journals and presses online and see what sort of work they promote. Always remember, you can’t give a journal the ability to say yes to your work without giving them the ability to reject you. See rejection as a path towards acceptance. Rejection can be discouraging, but all writers go through it.

Where do you typically seek inspiration and guidance for your work?

I don’t seek inspiration. Life just happens and poems drift your way if you’re paying attention. You just pluck them out of the sky or pick them off the sidewalk, and if you don’t grab them as they go by, well, then Ocean Vuong gets them.

How do you manage writer’s block?

I don’t have writers block as much as I have moments when what I’m writing isn’t living up to my expectations. You just have to write your way through those moments. Again, you need to fall in love with the process, and that often involves working on writing that may not appear in your next book or get published in a journal. But that doesn’t matter. What matters is that you’re writing, and you know that not all of it is going to be your best work. But you have to trust that working through those not-so-great poems or stories will lead you to the next thing and the next.

Interview with Sue Fagalde Lick

Author of “Turquoise” (Volume XXVI, 2022)

“Regarding the bathroom: The description is so vivid. What bathroom was this based on?”

The bathroom in the first section is from my childhood home. The turquoise bathroom in the other sections is in the house where I live now, so I use it every day. The previous owners were very fond of color, so I have a turquoise bathroom and a pink one. The living room was green, and the kitchen was purple when I moved in. I painted the kitchen white but kept the other colors.

“What inspired you to tell a life story through the aging and evolution of a bathroom?”

We had a prompt in a workshop to talk about a room and color. I had been thinking about having the bathroom repainted, so it was on my mind. Then I remembered the sky blue bathroom back home and lines started coming to me for this poem. We spend an awful lot of time in the bathroom but rarely talk about it and certainly don’t write poems about it. There are stories there if we look.

“In the third and fourth cantos, the woman seems quite lonely. How do you envision the woman spending her Christmas Eve?”

She is lonely without her husband. I envision her going to Mass on Christmas Eve, then spending the rest of the holiday alone by the little Christmas tree she put up herself. You’d be surprised at how many widows find themselves in this situation.

Interview with Mercedes Lawry

Author of “Bears” (Volume XXVI, 2022)

“What brought you to write about bears in enclosures specifically?”

On a visit to Sitka, Alaska, I went to the Fortress of the Bears. These were bears that would never be released back into the wild. As with any captive animals, there is a sadness. As a young child I certainly never saw it that way. But that visit triggered memories of going to the zoo and seeing that particular bear and it was striking how I felt about it so many years later.

“Seeing the first couple of stanzas, are you experienced with bears in any way? If so, how?”

When my husband was battling cancer, friends sent us tiny Zuni bears that became tokens for us – we would take them to hospital visits. We began to get more bear items so now I have many bears in the house and as my husband passed away, they are a sweet reminder of him. I’ve been lucky enough to see bears in the wild twice – never in a dangerous situation.

“Why did you choose to write “Bears” as a poem and not a short story?”

Although I do write short fiction, I am primarily a poet and it was a natural inclination to approach this topic through a poem, distilling the various influences of bears while exploring their emotional resonance.

Interview with Cecil Morris

Author of “One Woman” (Volume XXVI, 2022)

“Could you tell us who inspired the character in this poem?”

My son was shooting wedding photos for a friend of his wife’s family in Cathedral Park under the St. John’s Bridge in Portland, and I had come along as an equipment carrier and back-up photographer. At least two other photographers were at the park shooting portraits (one of another wedding couple and one of a high school senior). Not a native Portlander, I had never been to Cathedral Park and was struck by the beauty of the scene and the brides. I began to imagine how the mother of a daughter or daughters might view the scene, so the “one woman” of the poem is mostly imaginary.

Being a poet of a certain age, I often think of my own receding and my own children having outgrown me and surpassed me in accomplishments. So I thought about how a woman might think of herself on that bridge suspended between (first) her life as young bride and new mother and (later but not that much later) the mother of brides.

“Why did you choose to keep your poem in one long stanza instead of breaking it up?”

I kept the poem as a single stanza because life–especially for this “one woman”–is a single short bridge from past to future. I think this might be a projection of my own experience of parenthood. It all went by so fast. Presto change-o from baby to toddler to teen to married and gone.

Interview with Heather Charton

Author of “What We Knew” (20th Anniversary Issue)

What was the inspiration for “What We Knew”?

My dad has an unusual hobby: fireworks. But he is not the only one. A few years ago, he became a card-carrying member of Pyrotechnics Guild International and then convinced my mom and me to attend a couple of their conventions with him. At these conventions, the fireworks were amazing, but the people were incredible, too. Their delightful passion for all things “pryo” were the beginnings of “What We Knew.”

The point of view came next. I’m a small-town Midwesterner, which makes it hard to get away from the effects—both good and bad—of community. I am fascinated by a town’s group mentality, the way it’s alliances shift and develop. In “What We Knew,” I used the focal point of fireworks to play with that social dynamic.

What made you decide to become an author?

When I started my undergraduate program at Kent State, I knew that I loved words and that I wanted to be a teacher. Then I took Joey Nicoletti’s Intro to Creative Writing course. He opened up to me the idea that I could not only teach others to love and use words but that I could also use them myself. He showed me that being a writer was a possibility. After his class, I still loved words and I still wanted to be a teacher, but I also wanted to be a writer. I took every writing class I could at Kent and then pursued my MFA at Lesley University.

Do you have any other pieces you’re intending to release soon or are working on?

I had another short story—“Grounded”—published in Bird’s Thumb this February. I currently have a few short stories in the submission process and am beginning to look for an agent for my first novel.

Interview with Harry Newman,

Author of “Back” (20th Anniversary Issue)

“Back” is a strange piece, feeling almost alien in its eccentricities. I quite enjoyed it, what was the inspiration behind it?

I have a several poems like “Back” that are associative in nature, that are guided by a more emotional logic than anything rationally thought out. There aren’t very many of them, but I like it when they come and try to follow those impulses wherever they lead. I’m interested in working more in that way because it’s unnerving for me.

“Back” is an older poem — it’s not been easy to find people who respond well to it — and I don’t remember its origin in much detail. I was homeless at the time I wrote it, after the end of my first marriage. Moving from couch to couch at various friends’ apartments around the city, in one place only a few days at a time. I guess it started as an effort to remind myself, a whispering in my own ear. A suggestion of direction and a hope for return.

What made you decide to become an author in the first place?

There was nothing conscious about it. I started writing at a young age, 9 or 10. First poems, then later plays. I spent my 20s and 30s working professionally in theater in New York, as a writer and translator and on the staff of theaters. Writing was just the thing I did naturally. And I always treated it professionally, just assuming it would be where I’d go. I started sending out poems to journals when I was in my teens. They always came back. Good practice for the future.

Do you have any other pieces you’re intending to release soon, or are working on?

I always have 30 or 40 poems circulating to journals at any given time. When one group gets rejected, I send it to another journal right away. I keep a list. I have a reading coming up in New York in June and I’m hoping to have a new poem or two for it. That’s what I’m working on right now. I’ve also started rehearsing for the reading. In part that’s because of my background in theater, but I can also get quite nervous when I read and like to practice aloud for a week or two before a reading. That helps me discover an order for the poems as well, a shape for the presentation as a whole.

Interview with Patricia Murphy

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In 2005, the CLR published Patricia Colleen Murphy’s poem “Days After.” This year, she won the May Swenson Poetry Award for her poetry collection Hemming Flames. We had the chance to interview Trish about her writing process and what inspired these poems. Enjoy!

What is the background and inspiration behind this collection?

I’ve been writing about my complex family history for as long as I can remember. Poetry is helpful in articulating that history because I can use an objective correlative to show what happened, rather than trying to explain it. I think about how many times I’ve summarized the conditions of my nuclear family–how often do any of us answer the questions, “Do you have siblings?” or “What do your parents do.” I spent years and years (on an airplane or at the dentist) flat out lying. I had to lie. I couldn’t stand that look of pity when I told the truth. In this book I tell the truth about everything: madness, violence, hostility, and chaos.

What difficulties did you have writing about the mental illness and more disturbing aspects of your life? Did you have any reservations about publishing this work?

The difficulty came from having to relive so many of the painful events that render the characters and actions on the page. My mother’s mental illness made me timid and insecure throughout my lifetime. It was always going to be bigger than me. And for so long I thought her illness was my fault. This is not an uncommon occurrence for a child of a mentally ill parent. But the feeling was exacerbated when she attempted suicide when I was 15 and I saved her life. She went on to attempt suicide many times. I was never in control of anything.

I don’t have reservations about publishing this work, but I do wish I had something more uplifting to say. It’s hard to give readings from the book because it’s so intense and it’s not really fair to take an audience to the same dark place that I had to go to write it.

How do you begin a poem, generally, and how did you begin to approach this collection in particular?

I have a very disciplined writing practice. I read a lot. At least 104 books a year. And I keep an extensive writer’s notebook. When I sit down to write, first I journal, then I read a full collection of poetry, then I journal again with reactions to that. Then I review my writer’s notebook and I decide on a line or image to drive the composing process. Every once in a while I’ll have a strong emotion and I use the poem to make a sweeping gesture to address that. But usually the poems are image based or line-driven.

For this collection, I wanted to have a satisfying arch. Most of the poems were already written, but I did decide to write a series of nonce sonnets about my brother that rounded out that topic in the book. My writer’s group read and commented on them all–for many years we exchanged a poem a week for ten weeks, on and off throughout the year–and they encouraged me to be brave and detailed.

Your poem “Days After” was published in the CLR in 2005. What has changed about your writing craft—the ideas or characters you explore, how you approach them—over the last ten years?

That poem is about a different death–the death of my partner’s father in 2001. We really spent the aughts with sick parents, losing all four between 01 and 09, before I was 40 years old. I do have some love poems, and a lot of travel poems, and some conservationist poems, and some nature poems, etc. But over the course of those years we took a lot of hits! So it was asylum, cancer, death, death, hoarding, asylum, death death, etc.

What advice do you have for writers and poets working on trauma-related pieces?

First, I would say that every poem has a little trauma in it. If not, then it lacks tension, and it’s not really a poem. Second, find a group of people who love you and support you and who will read your work and tell you when you are being honest. Third, I would say read everything you can. There are so many amazing examples of poetry collections that deal with traumatic events or conditions. I’ll list some here:

Black Aperture by Matt Rasmussen

After Urgency by Rusty Morrison

Self-Portrait with Crayon by Allison Benis White

Temper by Beth Bachmann

Rising by Farah Field

How Beautiful the Beloved by Gregory Orr

Wheeling Motel by Franz Wright

How can readers discover more about you and your work?

At my website patriciacolleenmurphy.com.